Two classicists in lively discussion; only the Greek episodes are indexed

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70 episodes indexed · 70 hours

Presented by David Noe, Jeff Winkle

Periods · The Bronze Age, Archaic Greece, The Persian Wars, Classical Greece, Philip and Alexander, The Hellenistic world, Greece under Rome

Themes · Religion Theatre War The polis Philosophy Daily life Art and building

Hosts Dr. David Noe and Dr. Jeff Winkle in lively discussion of Greco-Roman civilization from the Minoans and Mycenaeans through the Renaissance to the present; only the Greek episodes are here, 69 of 238, 7 eras, 70 hours.

Where to start. The earliest indexed episode is 'Ad Navseam Episode 11: Workin' for a Livin' - The Archaic Greek Poet Hesiod, Part 1' (2020); 70 episodes of this show are in the section.

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Minoans and Mycenaeans c. 3000 - 1100 BC · 26

1h 16mMore Nods than Gods: Nolan's Odyssey, Boo! (Ad Navseam, Episode 226) Ad NavseamPodcast

Christopher Nolan's screen adaptation gives a flattened, unimaginative Odysseus, a dull Calypso and a merely regal Penelope, and the movie would have been pretty much the same without the gods.

1h 12mGiving Goliath his Due: Mycenaeans and Philistines, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 129) Ad NavseamPodcast

Neal Bierling's monograph follows Philistine history from the Judges through David, Solomon and Hezekiah to Nebuchadnezzar's invasion, while the exact relationship between Samson and Hercules gets testy.

1h 11mThe Riddle of the Labyrinth: A Conversation with Margolit Fox (Ad Navseam, Episode 122) Ad NavseamPodcast

With Margalit Fox

Margalit Fox's book on the decoding of Linear B, found on Crete by Arthur Evans in 1900 and solved by Michael Ventris in 1952, credits Alice Kober's overlooked work.

1h 10mBecoming Nobody: A Conversation with Homeric Bluesman Joe Goodkin (Ad Navseam, Episode 158) Ad NavseamPodcast

With Joe Goodkin

Joe Goodkin, a Classics major from the University of Wisconsin turned Chicago musician, performs his own sung interpretations of Homer's Odyssey and Iliad on the show.

1h 05mGiving Goliath his Due: Mycenaeans and Philistines, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 128) Ad NavseamPodcast

Bierling's 1992 monograph links the Mycenaeans of Atreus and Agamemnon to the Philistines, with Egyptian steles, Apollo Smintheus and a startling similarity between Iliad I and I Samuel.

1h 04mAd Navseam Episode 6: SCHLIEMANN! Ad NavseamPodcast

Heinrich Schliemann, the German tycoon who helped discover Troy and Mycenae, gets asked here whether he was a legitimate archaeologist, a mad genius or a grave robber.

1h 04mThe Judgment of Jason: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part VII (Ad Navseam, Episode 230) Ad NavseamPodcast
1h 02mCome for the Wine, Stay for the Retributive Justice—Homer’s Odyssey, Part 10 (bks 20-22); Episode 36 Ad NavseamPodcast

Athena, disguised as Mentor, wants the punishment of the suitors and disloyal staff, raising hard questions about the deaths of Leodes and the executed maids.

1h 01mOlive's Well that Ends Well: Homer's Odyssey, part 11 (Books 23-24), Ad Navseam Episode 37 Ad NavseamPodcast

Penelope wins her battle of wits over their bed as the suitors are sent to Hades, where Agamemnon jeers, while Odysseus tests his old father with one more false identity.

1h 01mAd Navseam Episode 30: More Pain in the Nekuia—Odysseus in the Underworld, Part 2 (Homer’s Odyssey, part 7) Ad NavseamPodcast

In the underworld Odysseus meets Epicaste, Antiope and Alcmene, then hears Agamemnon's grim homecoming tale, finds a silent Ajax Telamon, and sees Sisyphus, the original rock-n-roller, eternally doomed.

56mAd Navseam Episode 32: Swined and Dined—Homer’s Odyssey, part 8 (Books 12-14) Ad NavseamPodcast

Odysseus survives Scylla and Charybdis, the Sirens and his men's fatal hankering for a decent steak on the island of Helios, before Athena sends him to Eumaeus's hut on Ithaca.

55m“Take a Gander at this Dream I Had…” Homer’s Odyssey, Part 9 (Books 18-19) - Episode 34 Ad NavseamPodcast

Odysseus clocks the mouthy Irus in a bum fight, then Penelope overshares with the stranger, Eurykleia shrieks at a telling scar, and a geesey dream puts his wife in the driver's seat.

55mAd Navseam Episode 33: “Reunited and it Feels so Good”--Homer’s Odyssey, Part 9 (Books 15-17) Ad NavseamPodcast

Telemachus finally reunites with Odysseus at the hut of the swineherd Eumaeus, complete with bird omens and Odysseus dodging stool legs while disguised as a beggar.

51mAd Navseam Episode 27: “HOLY MOLY!” — Homer’s Odyssey, part 5 (Book 10) Ad NavseamPodcast

After the Cyclops, Odysseus receives the winds from Aeolus then decides on nap time without telling his crew, survives the cannibal Laestrygonians, and reaches Circe's island of Aeaea with help from Hermes.

51mAd Navseam Episode 26: “It’s all Fun and Games Till Someone Pokes an Eye Out” - Homer’s Odyssey, Part 4 (Book 9) Ad NavseamPodcast
48mAd Navseam Episode 23: Down on the Pharmaka—Homer’s Odyssey, Part 2 Ad NavseamPodcast

Telemachus leaves Ithaca for the Peloponnese, visiting Nestor before reaching Sparta, where Menelaus and Helen give conflicting versions of the Trojan Horse story.

48mAd Navseam Episode 5: History and the Trojan War Ad NavseamPodcast

Boar's-tusk helmets, Nestor's cup, elaborate burials and a catalog of ships supply the archaeological and linguistic evidence weighed here for a historical core to the Trojan War.

47mAd Navseam Episode 24: "A Toast to the Host who can Boast the Most Roast” — Homer’s Odyssey, Part 3 (Books 5-8) Ad NavseamPodcast

Zeus sends Hermes to free Odysseus from Calypso after seven years, and Odysseus and Nausicaa have a go at jarts while Demodocus plucks the hottest hits of the Mycenaean Era.

46mAd Navseam Episode 29: A Pain in the Nekuia—Odysseus in the Underworld, Part 1 (Book 11) Ad NavseamPodcast

Odysseus travels to the land of the dead, where the ghost of Elpenor appears fresh from Circe's island, Tiresias delivers his prophecy, and his mother Anticleia's shade cannot be embraced.

46mAd Navseam Episode 22: When will Dad be Home? - Homer's Odyssey, Part 1 Ad NavseamPodcast

The Odyssey opens with Penelope and Telemachus besieged on Ithaca by greedy suitors, and the poem's first word, andra, might be a guidestone for its deeper themes.

46mAd Navseam Episode 4: Homer's Iliad, Part 3 Ad NavseamPodcast

The tour through Homer's Iliad ends with death on all sides as Patroclus and Hector die, with the guys weighing the aesthetics of greaves, shields and the so-called Superman paradox.

45mAd Navseam Episode 7: Troy, the Movie - More Bods than Gods Ad NavseamPodcast

Wolfgang Petersen's 2004 film Troy gets revisited here, questioning its Homeric spirit and awarding Orlando the Tiresias prize for the most obnoxious performance in the cast.

41mAd Navseam Episode 3: Homer's Iliad, Part 2 Ad NavseamPodcast

Honor lost and honor defended frame Book 9 of Homer's Iliad, where Achilles spends the book glamping in his tent.

40mAd Navseam Episode 2: Homer's Iliad, Part 1 Ad NavseamPodcast

Part 1 of the journey through Homer's Iliad brings Achilles, Agamemnon, Briseis, Chryseis, Diomedes and a face that launched a thousand ships.

30mHomer's Odyssey Three Ways: Recent Translations by Anthony Verity, Emily Wilson, and Peter Green (Gurgle 8) Ad NavseamPodcast

Following Prof. Richard Whitaker, the guys weigh three Odyssey translations by Anthony Verity, Emily Wilson and Peter Green, and ask whether Wilson's, the basis for Nolan's film, has sufficient gravitas.

17mThe Palladium (Gurgle 5) Ad NavseamPodcast

This fun-size offering tackles the mysterious, quasi-historical Palladium, the talisman held in the Trojan citadel that protected the city until Odysseus and Diomedes stole it away; rumor says it went to Athens or Sparta, and then maybe Rome.

Dark Age and Archaic Greece 1100 - 480 BC · 3

49mAd Navseam Episode 12: Theogony and the Ecstasy - The Archaic Greek Poet Hesiod, Part 2 Ad NavseamPodcast

Hesiod's Theogony, close to a canonical creation myth from about 700 BC, explains where the gods and universe come from, with two Aphrodites and Kronos angling for a role.

48mAd Navseam Episode 11: Workin' for a Livin' - The Archaic Greek Poet Hesiod, Part 1 Ad NavseamPodcast

Hesiod's Works and Days, from around 700 BC, asks whether he rivals Homer while covering the justice of Zeus, the myth of Pandora and the five ages of mankind.

46mAd Navseam Episode 15: I Can't Spare a Square! - Horror Vacui and the Dipylon Vase Ad NavseamPodcast

The eighth-century BC Dipylon Vase has every inch of its surface covered, with a funeral scene dominating it, and the episode asks what drives a culture toward that fear of the empty space.

The Persian Wars 499 - 449 BC · 2

48mAd Navseam Episode 19: A Lion at the Gates - The Battle of Thermopylae, Part 1 Ad NavseamPodcast

With Peter Green's help, the guys trace how Darius the Great is turned back at Marathon before his son Xerxes I seeks revenge with a horde of wicker-wearing Immortals.

46mAd Navseam Episode 20: A Lion at the Gates - The Battle of Thermopylae, Part 2 Ad NavseamPodcast

In 480 BC the Persians learn Spartan discipline holds until the traitor Ephialtes shows Xerxes a mountain path, and Leonidas resigns himself to death.

Classical Athens and Sparta 479 - 386 BC · 2

1h 07mCad to the Bone: Alcibiades and Asebeia in 415 BC (Ad Navseam, Episode 74) Ad NavseamPodcast

In 415 BC, as Nicias opposes it, Alcibiades persuades Athens to invade Sicily, then faces accusations after the herms are mutilated and maybe even a drunken satire of sacred mysteries performed.

1h 02mA Light in the Attic: Lysias' Speech Against Eratosthenes (Ad Navseam, Episode 217) Ad NavseamPodcast

Lysias, a resident alien who prospered as a speechwriter, impeaches the tyrant Eratosthenes to get justice for his murdered brother Polemarchus after Sparta's regime followed the Peloponnesian War.

Philip and Alexander 359 - 323 BC · 1

1h 11mTomb it May Concern: Manolis Andronikos and Philip II at Vergina (Ad Navseam, Episode 172) Ad NavseamPodcast

In 1977 Manolis Andronikos revealed the royal Macedonian tombs at Aigai, likely holding Philip II, a find framed here with David Grant's research and Demosthenes' Second Philippic.

The Hellenistic Age 323 - 31 BC · 2

1h 14mMythbusting Asbestos We Can: Fire at the Library of Alexandria? (Ad Navseam, Episode 193) Ad NavseamPodcast

The Library of Alexandria's fabled burning did not happen all at once, and the pagan-versus-Christian finger pointing over its loss does not help.

1h 08mI Want My Mummy!: the Lost Tomb of Alexander the Great (Ad Navseam, Episode 65) Ad NavseamPodcast

The tomb and body of Alexander simply vanished, and the search runs from Babylon to Memphis, Alexandria and even Venice, though some of the greatest Caesars once visited the tourist attraction.

Greek Life, Thought and the Wider World across the centuries · 34

1h 20mHow the Greeks Built Cities, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 189) Ad NavseamPodcast

Wycherley's study of the agora shows it as more than a marketplace, a hub for politics and athletics, while nearly every Greek polis had religious shrines, gymnasia and stadiums.

1h 15m"Women of Trachis": Sophocles' Forgotten Play, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 177) Ad NavseamPodcast

Sophocles' Trachiniae leaves it unclear whether Deianeira is an innocent wife or a calculating rival to Iole, closer to Euripides' Medea or Phaedra, with Heracles as villain or hero.

1h 14mHiss and Tell!: Lucian of Samosata's Alexander the False Prophet, Part 2 (Ad Navseam, Episode 151) Ad NavseamPodcast

The episode wraps up Lucian's account of Alexander the False Prophet in Abonoteichus, where the shyster teams up with apprentice Cocconas to go a-bilking with fake eggs, rumors of Asclepius and puppet snakes.

1h 14mDo the Rite Thing: The Homeric Hymn to Demeter, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 127) Ad NavseamPodcast

Demeter gives the infant Demophoon nightly fire purgations for his mortality, is caught in the act, and decides to set up a cult at Eleusis, while Persphone must beware the pomegranate.

1h 14mWhoa, Milo, Come on, Come On, Let’s Go: The Greatest Ancient Athlete (Ad Navseam, Episode 125) Ad NavseamPodcast

Milo of Croton won multiple Olympiads and supposedly deadlifted a stone of more than 1100lbs; Pausanias, Galen, Strabo and Cicero were fascinated by his prowess and his appetite.

1h 13mA Daimon in the Rough: Plato’s Apology, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 191) Ad NavseamPodcast

Socrates' elenchus, the method of question and answer he uses to refute his interlocturos, gets tested against the tactics of the Sophists with help from scholar Gregory Vlastos.

1h 13mThey’ve Lost their Marbles!: Lord Elgin and the Parthenon Sculptures (Ad Navseam, Episode 70) Ad NavseamPodcast

Lord Elgin removed the Parthenon marbles from Athens to his Scottish mansion, and they still sit in the British Museum in London while Lord Byron somehow avoids the same blame.

1h 11mBrother, Can You Spare a Daimon? Plato’s Apology, Part III (Ad Navseam, Episode 192) Ad NavseamPodcast

Socrates describes an inner daimon that only seeks to drive him away from something, a voice the guys compare to the apostle Paul's conscience in Romans, within Plato's Apology.

1h 10m"Women of Trachis": Sophocles' Forgotten Play, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 176) Ad NavseamPodcast
1h 10mGullible's Travels? An Introduction to Herodotus with Dr. Ken Bratt (Ad Navseam, Episode 141) Ad NavseamPodcast

With Ken Bratt

Ken Bratt explains why he chose Herodotus, the man of Halicarnassus, for his Princeton dissertation, weighing J.A.S. Evans' question of whether he is history's father or its liar.

1h 09mHow You Lycus Now?: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part VI (Ad Navseam, Episode 228) Ad NavseamPodcast

Apollonius' Argonautica reaches King Lycus, who welcomes Jason and his crew warmly until crew members Idmon and Tiphys meet a quick demise, so mourning meets the approach to Colchis.

1h 09mAmycus Brief: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part IV (Ad Navseam, Episode 225) Ad NavseamPodcast

Apollonius has Jason's crew face the boxing king Amycus of the Bebrycians, whom Polydeuces defeats, and the sons of Boreas free the prophet Phineus from the stench-laden bird women.

1h 09mEye Can't Get No Satisfaction: Polyphemus and Galatea in Theocritus' Idyll XI (Ad Navseam, Episode 199) Ad NavseamPodcast

In Theocritus' Idyll XI the Cyclops Polyphemus woos the sea nymph Galatea with song, composed by the Syracusan, Alexandrian poet before Polyphemus ever meets Odysseus.

1h 09mCivil Serpents: The Myths of Asclepius and the Healing Sanctuary at Epidauros (Ad Navseam, Episode 159) Ad NavseamPodcast

At Epidauros, invalids sought healing from Asclepius in the abaton, near a theater, stadium and the tholos where his remains were said to be buried.

1h 08mA Sandal in the Wind: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 222) Ad NavseamPodcast

Apollonius of Rhodes takes a four-book voyage from Colchis back to Iolcus and asks whether Jason can reclaim the throne from uncle Pelias by himself or needs the sorceress Medea, granddaughter of the sun.

1h 08mPay no Attention to the Girl behind the Curtain - The Delphic Oracle (Ad Navseam, Episode 56) Ad NavseamPodcast

Consulting the oracle of Apollo at Delphi meant climbing Mount Parnassus, making purifications and offering sacrifices first, and an answer no more straight-forward than poor old Croesus got.

1h 07mHow the Greeks Built Cities, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 188) Ad NavseamPodcast

The episode credits the grid-pattern city, still visible in modern street plans, to Hippodamus of Miletus, who spread his design for the Greek city across Attica, Italy and Rhodes.

1h 07m“Just Ghosts To Show Ya” - Halloween Special (Ad Navseam, Episode 60) Ad NavseamPodcast

Ancient Greek parents frightened children with the blood-thirsty Mormo, the seductive Lamia and the dung-footed Empousa, and the guys also wander into Athens' most-haunted house, watching for dead relatives.

1h 06mHypsipyle Don't Lie: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 223) Ad NavseamPodcast

Apollonius' Book 1 carries the journey from Iolcus toward Colchis while Dave and Jeff puzzle over Jason's milquetoast administrative style and a Heracles stripped of his brawling, wine-binging swagger, first stop Lemnos.

1h 06mDaimons are Forever: Plato’s Apology, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 190) Ad NavseamPodcast

The episode lays groundwork for Socrates' defence speech, asking how the reign of the 30 tyrants and his connections to great men like Pericles influenced it, and what the elenchus did for ethical teaching.

1h 06mIo Wanna be a Cowboy: Aeschylus’ Prometheus Bound, Part III (Ad Navseam, Episode 132) Ad NavseamPodcast

Aeschylus has Io, tormented by a gadfly, show pity for the chained Prometheus, testing Stephen White's thesis that the play reinforces ancient Greek gender roles.

1h 05mCloudy with a Chance of Socrates: Aristophanes' Clouds, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 210) Ad NavseamPodcast

Aristophanes' Clouds stages a debate between Superior Argument and Inferior Argument, asking whether might makes right, whether rhetoric is all there is to law, and whether Pheidippides can be trusted with logic.

1h 05mHissterical!: Lucian of Samosata's Alexander the False Prophet, Part 1 (Ad Navseam, Episode 150) Ad NavseamPodcast

Lucian of Samosata, a second-century satirist born in the further reaches of Asia Minor, wrote A True Story and took on the fraudulent shyster Alexander, with Erasmus and Thomas More somehow involved.

1h 05mWe Didn’t Steal the Fire: Aeschylus’ Prometheus Bound, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 130) Ad NavseamPodcast

With Deborah Roberts

Deborah Roberts of Haverford College helps open Aeschylus' Prometheus Bound, with the dialogue between smith god Hephaestus and the personifications Power and Violence, and how this telling differs from Hesiod.

1h 05m“Brekekekex! Koax! Koax!”: Ancient Greek Comedy and Aristophanes’ Frogs (Ad Navseam, Episode 50) Ad NavseamPodcast

Aristophanes' Frogs imagines Dionysus, god of tragedy, descending into Hades in 405 BC to bring the recently dead Euripides back, since there are now no good poets left.

1h 04mFleece is the Word: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part III (Ad Navseam, Episode 224) Ad NavseamPodcast

Jason must recover the golden fleece and reclaim Iolcus's throne while Hercules abandons the voyage searching for his squire Hylas, a Hellenistic test of Apollonius against Callimachus.

1h 04mYou Can't Be Cirrus: Aristophanes' Clouds, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 208) Ad NavseamPodcast

Aristophanes' Clouds mixes the lofty and the scatological, and Socrates offers to teach how making Inferior Argument stronger dodges the Christmas credit card bills that recently came calling.

1h 04mLet's Get this Potty Started: A Conversation on Aristophanes with Translator Diane Arnson Svarlien (Ad Navseam, Episode 161) Ad NavseamPodcast

With Diane Arnson Svarlien

Translator Diane Arnson Svarlien discusses her new edition of Aristophanes, covering Lysistrata and the Ladies of Thesmophoria, and what it takes to translate his comic Greek verse.

1h 03mHey, I’ma be Liver Now: Aeschylus’ Prometheus Bound, Part II (Ad Navseam, Episode 131) Ad NavseamPodcast

Relying on David Konstan, the guys take up Ocean and the chorus of Oceanids in Prometheus Bound and compare it with Agamemnon, Sophocles' Oedipus Rex and Euripides' Hippolytus, through Deborah Roberts' translation.

1h 02mNo Pain, No Grain: The Homeric Hymn to Demeter, Part I (Ad Navseam, Episode 126) Ad NavseamPodcast

This archaic hymn to Demeter, running four hundred ninety-five lines, may serve mystery-cult ritual, and gets compared here to the cults of Mithras and Dionysus.

1hFleece in Our Time: The Argonautica of Apollonius, Part V (Ad Navseam, Episode 227) Ad NavseamPodcast

Jason's crew must sail past the Smashing Symplegades to reach Colchis and recover the golden fleece, while the episode mixes stern-scraping action with musing on the perfect length for an epic simile.

1hHow Many Ships Can Your Face Launch?: Gorgias' "Encomium of Helen" and the Delayed Punchline" (Ad Navseam, Episode 47) Ad NavseamPodcast

The sophist Gorgias, 483 to 375 BC, working the Olympia and Delphi circuit and Athens, defends Helen of Troy so persuasively that his own final word undercuts the whole argument.

50mAd Navseam Episode 17: “Honey, I’m Home!”—Alcestis, Part 2 Ad NavseamPodcast

Euripides' Alcestis has Admetus continue his mope-a-thon until Heracles shows up between a funeral and a house party, and a strange, silent, veiled woman brings the twist ending.

44mAd Navseam Episode 16: “Euripides? Eubuyides!”—Alcestis, Part 1 Ad NavseamPodcast

Euripides' Alcestis, which even devotees of tragedy may not know, has Apollo and Thanatos trade rap-battle insults while hubby Admetus behaves insufferably; its poet is the man the Athenians loved to hate.